The recent discussion of The Conflict (French "philosopher" Elisabeth Badinter's screed blaming what she calls "natural" and "intensive" mothering for lowering women's status) has predictably turned into a moanfest among Americans on the NYT Motherlode, and other internet venues, that we just don't get the same support they do in France (and other European countries) and doesn't that suck.
In my last post I questioned how so many Americans are saying that they can't afford to stay home OR to put their children in day care. I mean, they afford it because they have to do one or the other, obviously, but is it really such a crunch? I was accused of living in a bubble and so on and so forth and I will admit here and now that maybe that is somewhat true. The people I know all can afford it—either staying home or using childcare. I suspect most of the people who read and post to the NYT can also afford it, which is what gets me so cranky. These are the people who have cable, smart phones, minivans, multiple children, get professional portraits taken of their multiple children, shop at Gymboree for their multiple children, have parties at non-home venues for their multiple children, go on nice vacations, eat premium foods—you get the picture. No slam against these people, but please don't tell me how hard it is to get along. But, maybe that's just my bubble.
Now, if you're talking about seriously poor ghetto or Appalachia types, that's another story. Of course. I guess the problem for me is—where one ends and the other begins. Is there a sharp line, is it just a matter of degree, and, I am sort of coming around to the idea that collective help for everybody might be a good idea. I just can't escape what I know about how everyone I know, and even people with less money than my peers and I, live. It seems like there's a lot of excess there and why can't we just help the people who really need help rather than sign up for some weird feminist/socialist utopia that seems to me to be more about bolstering over-educated women who didn't marry well and want to be assured of their fulfillment that they are not open-minded enough to find in the children that nobody is forcing them to have.
I think yappy feminists have ruined it for me.
Let me just say that I consider myself a feminist in the sense that I think women should have full sovereignty over their own bodies and lives. Articles like this, highlighting the egregious flaws of "personhood" measures, for example, make my blood begin to boil. I think women should be able to do and be whatever they want to be. BUT the voices that proclaim women who want to dedicate themselves to motherhood (or for whatever reason, NOT doing all the stuff feminists say they should want to do) make me seriously want to distance myself from feminism. Those who warn of husbands leaving, women losing themselves, those who say they'd be so bored at home with a small child (implying it's because they are just so intellectual they couldn't bear it), these are the types that ruin it for me.
But then I learn about people that actually are disadvantaged, that actually do need help and I can change my tune about not wanting to support others.
A couple nights ago we watched a doc called The Interruptors. The film tells the story of three "violence interrupters" who try to protect their
Chicago communities from the violence they once employed. It examines a
year in which Chicago drew national headlines for violence and murder
that plagued the city. A key player in the film is Gary Slutkin, M.D., Executive Director of Ceasefire, an organization that uses a public health model to mitigate urban violence in Chicago. Dr. Slutkin, an epidemiologist, explains in the film that violence is like a disease. His group's strategy is to treats it like a disease and prevent its spread. He says "When one event doesn't occur, other events don't occur and
the neighborhood remains safer.
Treating violence like a disease is something that we began to do about 15 years ago
when we began to see that violence had characteristics like other infectious diseases. That
is to say, one event, in this case a shooting, leads to another shooting just the way a case
of flu or case of measles leads to another case of flu or another case of measles. So
therefore, of course, we need to interrupt the spread."
And it dawned on me that these people are the people who need the free quality childcare and got me thinking that problems with education and general development, beyond violence and criminality, can also be viewed as a "disease" and that the people are not necessarily bad people, they are just afflicted with this disease.
I don't want to sound greedy. I don't want it to sound like I don't want to be taxed for a program that might help people who don't really need it—like my peers and those a little "poorer" than us—if such a program would also help those really in need.
At the same time, I feel like my way of life and the way I grew up with—mom at home with small children, the freedom, the creativity, the opportunity to bolster individuality—is under attack to some extent. We are called "privileged" when all we've done is work, get an education and prioritize, things that seemingly anyone could do, but for some reasons they don't. We are derided as living in a bubble when what we are doing is focusing on making our lives work.
All I can say at this point is that I am very grateful to have had the opportunity to give my kid the kind of early childhood I want for her. The rest will have to simmer in the murky gurglings of my brain for a while, because I don't have a clear cut position.
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But don’t you understand that the reason those families you know can afford those nice things is precisely because both the mother and father work? From the end of World War II through the 1970s, which, if you read some American history books, was a golden era in terms of “living the good life” in America families had their version of all those lovely things one ONE salary only. And need I remind you that there was a baby boom going too – so lots of those “multiple children” you talk about. Today, however, things are so bad that most mothers and fathers have to work just to pay for the basics – not cable, not smartphones, not fancy parties. If the only people you know are the people you describe, then yes, you do live in a bubble and you have to get out there much more. But you also shouldn’t criticize people who are working very very hard to have that “good life” that their parents enjoyed, and who want to have more than one child. Not everyone wants to live a log cabin existence. You are not better than everyone else because you deny, deny, deny yourself (which I don’t believe you even do as much as you say – from reading your blog, it’s obvious you live quite nicely, so hubby must be doing well).
Some both work some don't. You're missing the point. The point is that people don't need government subsidies for childcare when they have all these other cool things they are buying. It's not the government's job (ie the taxpayers) to pay for the un-fun things like childcare and healthcare so you can pay for the fun things. The fun things are things you get, if you're lucky/industrious whatever, after the non-fun things are taken care of. I don't begrudge people working for these things, of course not, that's their choice. And I never act like I deny myself. What's more, the idea of "what our parents enjoyed" is really skewed. My parents lived in a 13,000 house and my dad, while I was growing up made like $90 a week when they started and never made more than about 35K while I was at home. We didn't have cable either always had old cars, Dad did all the home repairs. My folks were not college grads and they struggled but made their way and we were happy. Nobody nowadays thinks they should have any struggle time in life...
It's the "things are so bad that most families need both parents to work to pay for the basics" comments that resonate more with me, not the justification of all the other crap.
I am open to being made more aware of "how bad it is" though and not being closed minded about that...
And I should add that I am mostly supportive of national healthcare...people shouldn't lose everything because they get sick...which snowballs philosophically to eldercare...which snowballs to childcare...I can see the need and value, I guess I just wish people were a little more prudent. Some Libertarians argue that if the government wasn't already pulling the strings they're pulling people would be freer to earn what they need and take proper care of themselves. I like that idea, but not sure that can be trusted, either...I don't have the answers, I just don't like a lot of the tone I get on internet discussions from seemingly middle-class people wanting "help"...
It's not about the government helping. I don't want the government's help with my childcare. It's about not being criticized by SAHMs like you about NEEDING -and I really mean NEEDING-- to work, and not being able to live on one income, and you understanding that it's not because we're having fancy birthday parties and buying expensive baby designer clothes or because we're not as good as you at budgeting and cutting corners. In other words, maybe think twice before posting things like "I'm doing it and I'm not rich, so you can too!" NO, I can't. And millions of others (and I'm not talking about the poor) can't either. It doesn't mean I want a handout from Uncle Sam. I never said I did and I actually don't.
Also, since you brought up your parents, let me tell you about mine: I grew up in a very modest three bedroom apartment that my single mother paid for all by herself on a small salary. Today, exactly 28 years since she bought it, it is selling for FOUR TIMES the price that she bought it for in 1984. And she bought it as a single parent on ONE income! My husband and I cannot afford to buy it with two incomes. So here’s an example of how things have changed – the apartment I grew up in is now an millionaire’s home. This is the case all over the U.S. – homes have skyrocketed in price and what were formerly multi-dweller townhouses are now being purchased by one very rich family that will live in the whole thing, and everyone else is squeezed out. We are the first generation that is living worse than our parents. I know YOU personally aren’t, but most of us are.
I take all your points, but I personally am not one who is all that critical of people who for whatever reason decide they HAVE to work. It's a free country (for now). Do I think it's best for a kid under 3 to NOT be in non-maternal care most of the day...of course I do. I thought I made pretty clear my gripes are on much more of a philosophical level than caring if people want to work to pay for things. The whole premise of my latest complaints has been about the calls for subsidized childcare and such from the American pundits responding to "Conflict" and changing it from being about motherhood's oppressiveness to the oppressiveness of not getting any government help here in the U.S. YOU may have not said you want help (and I don't know who you are since the handle is "Anonymous" and it's not clear all the anonymouses are the same, or the same as the anonymous on the NYT comments...) but MANY MANY others say they do want help. And, as I said, I'm not even dead set against helping...
I hear you, and yes, it's all the same Anonymous. And I agree about being careful what we wish for with respect to government interference, because the government is often more of an hindrance than a help.
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